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This quantity comprises the lawsuits of a convention at the Presocratic philosophers Pythagoras and Heraclitus. Investigated through a crew of overseas students are key difficulties in doxography, Pythagorean groups, trademarks, concord, psychology, flux, quantity idea, ethics, and theology. Designed for all scholars of old philosophy, this quantity will spur additional investigations into those cardinal matters of early Greek clinical thinkers.

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This goes even further than Diels and is absolutely too far. Their names are not found in the catalogue and, moreover, no classical source considers any of them a Pythagorean or even a pupil of the Pythagoreans. Even if Oenopides or Hippocrates studied mathematics with the Pythagoreans, this fact alone does not make them Pythagoreans. Of the fourth century Pythagoreans on Diels’ list, another three have to be removed. 30 Ocellus 25 Cic. De nat. deor. 1, 107 = Arist. fr. 7 Rose. 26 W. Kroll, “Kerkops,” RE 11 (1921) 314; Philop.

Being on the list does not guarantee that the person in question really was a Pythagorean. In several cases, doubt remains and on occasion there is evidence to warrant deleting a person from the list. However, if there is no evidence to this effect, we can consider the data of the catalogue to be a sufficient proof that the person in question can be seen as a Pythagorean. Though it is our most important document, the catalogue is by far not the only one. 11). Pythagoras’ contemporary, the famous Crotonian doctor Democedes, who married a daughter of the Pythagorean athlete Milon (Hdt.

But in Diels and in the other modern collections of Pythagorean materials, we are faced with another problem: there are too many Pythagoreans. Partly this is because the selection criteria used are either not clear enough or not consistent. Diels does not explain his criteria for considering someone a Pythagorean, though he makes them quite visible, namely, by putting the evidence from Aristoxenus’ catalogue of the Pythagoreans (Iamb. VP 267 = DK 58 A) at the beginning of part A. Except for one passing remark,22 I have not found any explicit statements that he considered this catalogue to derive from Aristoxenus and thus to be evidence of primary importance, although this is certainly what he believed.

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